My name is Kasidit Thongthaikhunakon. I’m 23 years old. I come from Mae Hong Son. I graduated from the School of Law, University of Phayao. I wanted to work at BABSEA CLE because I experienced BABSEA CLE’s activities at my university.

BABSEA CLE conducted workshops at the University of Phayao. Then, I felt this organization was interesting and important. Also, I wanted to learn and develop my English with native speakers. Therefore, I am really happy that I am now a Legal Fellow of BABSEA CLE.

When I started to work here, I was worried because my English was not good and I was afraid to speak with foreigners. However, I have tried my very best and I am hoping my English will improve.

The part I like best about working here is when new interns come to BABSEA CLE, because then I have new work partners and we can exchange ideas and attitudes. They also help me learn English. In my work at BABSEA CLE I also support visiting clinician Michelle Langlois from the University of Montreal. I will help her in her work at the University of Phayao. I am very happy to work with her because she has a great personality, is very friendly and will be going to help my old university CLE group!

In the future, I want to be a judge. It was my ambition when I began to study law. Moreover, I want to be good in English since it is important to know everywhere.

Tak, BABSEA CLE Legal fellow

My name is Klanarong Kaikrong. My nickname is Tak. I’m 22 and I come from Lumpang. I graduated in law at the University of Phayao.

I wanted to work at BABSEA CLE because of all the BABSEA CLE activities I joined at my university. The workshops they conducted made me know that this organization is interesting and important. Also, I wanted to work with foreigners to improve my English. Now, I am a Fellow here, and my duties include contacting locations, and arranging the food and vehicles we need for each workshop. When I first started here, I was very worried about my English. I cannot speak or write English very well. I think my English is very poor. However, I have to do my duties to the best of my ability. I think practice makes perfect. Now, I am working at Mae Fah Luang University, where I am the support person for Professor Lisa Bliss, a visiting clinician from the United States.

In the future, I want to be good at English because I think it is important to communicate with people from other places. If I am better at English, I can be more professional in my work here. I am happy to be here and getting along very well with foreigners.

The invitation from Bruce and Wendy came packaged with their irresistible charm and passion for justice.

Come to Chiang Mai, they said. Help create the first university-sponsored Pretrial Justice Project in Thailand. Plant the same idea at law schools in other Southeast Asia countries where an accused remains in jail waiting for trial without having seen a lawyer. Spend your summer working with a talented group of volunteer students, lawyers and professors on clinic projects like this one.

They made me an offer I couldn’t refuse.

For nearly a decade, Bridges Across Borders Southeast Asia Community Legal Education Initiative (BABSEA CLE) has provided an international link for the law school community to demonstrate how clinical education enhances the educational experience of students preparing to join their country’s bar, while also reinforcing the lawyer’s professional value of serving marginalized communities.

I first met co-directors Bruce Lasky and Wendy Morrish at a Global Alliance for Justice Education (GAJE) conference in Manila in 2008. I attended their class, which of course relied on interactive teaching, and Wendy “volunteered” me to draw a map of Southeast Asia. Responding to my mild protest (“I cannot draw“) and definite concern with placing the countries correctly, Wendy asked, “So what will you do, Doug, since YOU cannot draw and may not know locations?” Thank you, Wendy, I get it.

I reached out for help by calling upon my Filipino colleague who knew the area and who would have received an “A” for constructing an acceptable map. Thus began my learning the BABSEA CLE way: collaborative, interactive, collective, prepared, organized and fun teaching.

Working with Interns

I have only just completed my first week here, but already I appreciate the valuable lessons that BABSEA CLE’s talented staff brings to every assignment. Wendy and Bruce attract an unusual collection of interesting, highly motivated and committed student interns, teaching fellows, lawyers and experienced teachers (like my U.S. clinic colleague, Lisa Bliss). This summer’s student group includes representatives from Thailand, Viet Nam, Singapore, Laos, Sweden, Canada and the U.S. They work on a variety of projects –Bruce and Wendy instill an excellent work ethic and teach the invaluable lawyer skill of juggling many balls at the same time — and learn the importance of brainstorming, organization, creativity, plan-ning, keeping promises and completing work on time.

Pretrial Justice Project

I have been fortunate to be working with a terrific and engaged Pretrial Justice team. We have had rich, forthright discussions filled with students’ alarm at learning that an accused poor person stands a good chance of remaining incarcerated before having had a trial or been found guilty. Student interns and fellows interviewed practicing lawyers and observed court proceedings; they gained appreciation for a lawyer’s advocacy and able representation. Students meet, exchange emails and share collected information. Already, we have information about Nigeria’s and Afghanistan’s pretrial justice/detention clinics (we await replies from other countries) that we can present to faculty, are familiar with Thailand’s and Laos’ right to counsel and bail law, and are developing a detailed lesson plan that will allow us to make an informed, energizing, skill- and value-based presentation to law school and bar audiences. Soon we will travel to universities in the region and initiate conversations for extending clinical education programs to their students and legal services to the unrepresented.

BABSEA CLE’s Pretrial Justice Project is familiar work. For the past 14 years, my Access to Justice Clinic students at the University of Maryland have interviewed, counseled and advocated for pretrial detainees who had no lawyer when deprived of liberty prior to trial. Law students gained valuable lawyer skills while bringing the attention of the legal community to a reality they had been unaware of: the lack of representation for low-income defendants.

Being Part of the BABSEA CLE Family

Now BABSEA CLE comes along and offers the unique opportunity of joining the international clinic community, becoming a better teacher, learning interactively with volunteers from many countries, adding to law schools’ curricula, and promoting people’s access to social justice in Southeast Asia. Add the excellent food, wonderful and hospitable people, and you, too, might find yourself here very soon. That would make the BABSEA CLE community very happy.

The First Asia Youth Forum, sponsored by the International Debate Education Association (IDEA) and UNITED Thailand was held in Bangkok and Pattaya in Thailand May 14-17. More than 200 repre-entatives from 23 different countries attended.

The aim of the forum was to develop and empower youth through debate. It was a great honor and wonderful experience for the Vietnamese CLE team to participate. We were five members, coming from different universities through-out Viet Nam: Uyen Hoang, Thuong Dang and Van Tran were the debaters, with coach Huong Dang and supervisor Hien Bui.

Team CLE Viet Nam was there to compete in debates, and also to learn, by participating in debate training sessions. Debate is a formal contest of argumentation between two teams or individuals. More than just a verbal or performance skill, debate combines the ideals of reasoned argument, tolerance for different points of view and rigorous self-examination. It is a great way for those who hold opposing views to discuss controversial issues without descending to insult, emotional appeals or personal bias.

More importantly, debate is an essential tool for developing and maintaining democracy and open societies. That’s why debate as a skill is important not only to CLE members, but to all law students.

A Necessary Skill

Our CLE programme is educating future legal ad-vocates on the social justice needs of marginalized com-munities. Our programme also aims to equip communities with skills they can use to protect their rights. In order to achieve those goals, CLE members are trained in critical thinking, reasoning and re-search skills and then teach that training to communities. It is obvious that lawyers can use debate skills and that debate helps train people to “speak up” for themselves.

So we consider debate one of the necessary skills of law students. With the idea of integrating debate trainings into CLE programmes created by BABSEA CLE and IDEA, the Team focused on learning how to teach debate to others during the event.